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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Paul,
I know what you mean about the belt I had a funny squeal develop yesterday and when I had to take the cover plate off and swing the head round it is not easy in the position its in. Turned out when I rebuilt the head the belt had move over one grove and had started to rub on the large pulley.
All sorted and back to peaceful running.
Hi Jim,
Pleased to hear you got the 300 in position eventually, that must have been a challenge and even with the back ache you do have to try it out just to be sure!!
I'm arranging to move the engineering lathe that I have been trying to take ownership of for the last couple of months but have been held up with the cold weather. Looks like it will happen this weekend all being well.
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Ian
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:28 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Paul

Yes, I think you are right about the spindle. Phil Irons told me recently that the 175 and the 300 both have the same spindle. In both cases the outboard spindle is threaded r/h, same as inboard. I also agree about the change of speed on the 175, but I didn't find it an issue.

Having a r/h threaded outboard spindle on a swivel-head lathe has some advantages. You don't need l/h chucks or tools, for a start.

Have you ever tried taking off the outboard handwheel on the 175, mounting a bowl outboard and then swinging the headstock through 90 degrees? If you put the lathe in reverse you can work on the back of the bowl with the standard banjo and toolrest from the inboard position. No outboard turning attachment required!. This works for bowls up to around 20" diameter, although the depth of the bowl will be limited if the lathe is against a wall.

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Jim
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:17 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Jim.
I bought the outboard attachment with my lathe which again is a very nice solid piece of kit.I have turned two large platters using this method and the rest was very solid.Felt strange at first though turning this way Confused
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Paul

I too bought the outside turning attachment to go with the VL300 and I have just used it for the first time. It agree that it is a bit strange at first, but then you realise that you can walk almost all the way around the workpiece and turn from angles that would be very difficult with the workpiece over the bed. This is great for closed form bowls. It does take up a lot of space in the workshop, though.

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:13 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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It does take up a lot of space in the workshop, though.


Yes Jim it was that that made my mind up with the 175, i did order a 300, as i did not have the room to turn that way,but by turning the headstock into the shop i could have as much room as i liked.
You will have to post some piccys Jim Very Happy
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:49 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good Ian Laughing

So we have the BRN ( Wizer )

And several BGM's ( Blister ) ( Cornucopia )

And now we have a MBM ( Medium Blue Machine )


Razz Mr. Green Razz
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:07 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Paul

One reason for changing to the VL300 was that I plan to make large segmented pieces which need tailstock support during construction. Obviously this can't be done outboard, so I couldn't use the VL175. I suppose I will just have to pay the penalty in additional workshop space. There is some compensation in that the VL300 is quite a bit shorter than the VL175. The bed including the headstock is 39" long, as opposed to 60" or so on on the VL175. With the tailstock removed you can do faceplate work on the VL300 by leaning over the bed from the tailstock end.

Yes I will post some pics when I get the opportunity

Got to go now as son and daughter are visiting today to celebrrate son's 27th birthday

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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And several BGM's ( Blister )

How you getting on with he BGM Allen.Is it up and running yet Question

Hello Jim.
I think if i had the room i would have had the 300,but saying that if i had had the room i would have a VB now,as that was my first choice but had to back out of the deal due to lack of room,as my lathe had to go against the wall where it is situated.
Also the swivel head has come in useful when using my hollowing rig,as i can turn the head out instead of the tool to give me the room i need to get inside the hollow forms,if you see what i mean.So the 175 has been useful that way for me Very Happy
Hope you had a good day yesterday.
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Paul

I see you are a man of taste, wanting a VB. You're not alone. But there is the cost as well as the size and weight, and unless you put on the long tailstock assembly on they do vibrate (a bit) if not bolted down. Oh and they get very hot. Just me being satisfied with what I have.

I did love using the VL175 and I know what you mean about the hollowing rest, because I used one with mine. On the 300 you have to move to the other side of the bed.

Had a good day yesterday with birthday boy, but at what age do the kids stop being an expense? After lunch I retreated to the turning empire out back and made a big shiny beech bowl and tons of shavings. Now that's a proper winter's sunday afternoon!

Jim

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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:19 am Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Paul.J"]Blister wrote
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And several BGM's ( Blister )

How you getting on with he BGM Allen.Is it up and running yet Question

Paul

Only just sold the big table saw , so I now have some more room ,
will get back to sorting the new workshop

If it ever warms up a bit Rolling Eyes

Its still there looking at me every time I go in the garage Razz

Not used it yet , But I know its waiting Wink
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Had a good day yesterday with birthday boy, but at what age do the kids stop being an expense? After lunch I retreated to the turning empire out back and made a big shiny beech bowl and tons of shavings. Now that's a proper winter's sunday afternoon!

Seems a good way to end the day Jim Very Happy

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Only just sold the big table saw , so I now have some more room ,
will get back to sorting the new workshop

If it ever warms up a bit

Its still there looking at me every time I go in the garage

Not used it yet , But I know its waiting

Can't believe how long it took to sell the table saw Allen.I thought it would have been snapped up.
You have more patience than me.
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