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RILEY
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:07 pm Post subject: How to use a scraper Reply with quote

This is probably the best video I've seen on scraper sharpening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZWqdPFul8

Just thought I'd post it here for others to see.
It seems like I've been overcomplicating the process for years.
I love the one swipe technique.

Adam.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting the vid Riley.

Seems simple but effective.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like that film.

I'm not really a hand tool guy Embarassed but in the past I've always used stanley blades for scraping small areas, the idea behind a cabinet scraper is great, but like normal sharpening, I get a bit overwhelmed.

I'm going to buy a scraper now, and try this technique Wink

Cheers Adam

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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: Reply with quote

A seminal lesson - great stuff
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a pity he didnt 'plug' the scrapers manufacturer Confused
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, might give that a try. Did anybody else hear what sounds like somebody sleeping during that video?
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:37 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandvik I think.
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always felt it necessary to run the burnisher backwards and forwards a few times with the scraper held firmly in the vice. But the shavings he achieved with just one pass and with the scraper in his hand were very impressive.

Not in work at the moment to try it but have other people had similar success with his method?

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:21 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Having never tried to use a scrapper, I'm thinking of trying this.

What type of file do I need to use to square the edge? Bastard, second or fine cut? Can anyone point me towards the right type in the Axi catalogue?

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bear wrote:
Having never tried to use a scrapper, I'm thinking of trying this.

What type of file do I need to use to square the edge? Bastard, second or fine cut? Can anyone point me towards the right type in the Axi catalogue?

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Mark


Hi Mark,

You are looking for a smooth file:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Vallorbe-Swiss-Hand-Files-22596.htm

Because the teeth are finer at shorter files, I would take the 200mm file.

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: Reply with quote

What a fabulous demo. Looks much easier than I have been making it so far. Especially the advice for using the file. And the swiping.
Mind you, I think a little practice prior to doing the swipe freehand - those knuckles on the hand doing the swiping are moving rather quickly past a rather sharp metal edge Smile

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically the method I use 'cept mine goes in the vice and I use two or three passes of the burnisher on each edge.
Not difficult to do once you get the knack Wink - Rob
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

pedder wrote:
The Bear wrote:
Having never tried to use a scrapper, I'm thinking of trying this.

What type of file do I need to use to square the edge? Bastard, second or fine cut? Can anyone point me towards the right type in the Axi catalogue?

Cheers


Mark


Hi Mark,

You are looking for a smooth file:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Vallorbe-Swiss-Hand-Files-22596.htm

Because the teeth are finer at shorter files, I would take the 200mm file.

Cheers
Pedder


I think I would get a mill file, they are single cut, used for filing saw blades and should give a smoother finish than a fine double cut file.
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob, sounds like I use (now 'used to use') the same technique as you, but to me this method is FAR superior.
Had the need to sharpen a scraper over the weekend and it works a treat. Just watch your knuckles on the (high speed) pass of the burnisher. DAMHIKT
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:51 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I was taught to start the burnishing square and gradually increase the hook in several passes. But I cannot deny that he get results, and excellent ones at that.

An that reminds me. My nice vertiats burnisher has started to get a bit scarred, I think it's time I spent a wee while fettling it.
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