JungleJim's Workshop Build

JungleJim · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject: JungleJim's Workshop Build

Hi everyone, I have been a frequent visitor to this forum on and off for few years now. And I have dreamt of being able to build my own workshop. I have always been envious of the Workshops that i have seen here. I have spent years thinking about the type of thing I want and have changed my mind countless times. But now I have found I am in the position to have the time and resources to be able to build my workshop. Looks like I am set to start in about 4 weeks.

Project Brief
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-7m x 4m (keeping it under the 30m2 so I won't need Building Regs)
-It will be just over 1 metre from the boundary on the sides and the back (avoiding building regs)
-The regs changed in 2008 that means any structure that is within 2m of the boundary cannot be higher than 2.5m, which I have decided will be what I work to, so I will be going for a flat/almost flat roof design.
-To keep the floor level as low as I can i have opted to use a concrete slab.
-I have already laid my 10 mm armoured cables in the ground and will have plenty of electrical sockets
-It is a requirement of the missus that it looks good, so would like it to be cedar clad (we’ll have to wait and see how the budget goes).
-looking to have 1 large window (approx 1m x 2m), keeping an eye on ebay at the moment, there seems to be a lot of windows being sold because the wrong size was ordered, may get a bargain.

Well, I leave it at that for a first post. I will be adding photo's and CAD drawings as I go, will keeps a log of what everything costs.

My next post will be my plan for laying the foundations, so please feel free to pick a pull apart and make any suggestions, this is my first time doing something like this and I want to get it right so any advice and suggestions will be greatly received.

Thanks

James

Dibs-h · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:54 pm Post subject:

James

Why not get BR approval and get yourself a ridged roof, more headroom and perhaps an aesthetically more pleasing building?

Dibs

kasandrich · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:07 pm Post subject:

Follow Mikes advice in the sticky at the top of this section and you will end up with a good one.
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dh7892 · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:08 pm Post subject:

Dibs: I think (from my research on a workshop build that I'm hoping to start soon too) that the 2.5 metre height restriction is a planning permission one and not a building regs one.

Just in case anyone reads this post and gets confused.

Jungle Jim: good luck with the build. Are you laying the concrete yourself? Sounds like a big slab, I hope you've got some help!

Dibs-h · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject:

Woody Alan · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject:

JungleJim · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject:

Ooh, I hadn't thought of this, I think a phone call to the planning department may be in order, Am interested to see how this discussion will go.

cheers dh, i meant to say PP, I will be doing the formwork of the base, laying the sub base and steel mesh but will be getting the concrete ready mixed, I'm approx 100 ft from the road, so will barrow it up to the top of the garden

Dibs, I know what you mean about flat roofs, I was trying to avoid going too high, as there is a bungalow at the back of the garden, and was concious of having something that appears imposing, but if Alan is right, I may have the best of both worlds.

MickCheese · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:20 pm Post subject:

dh7892 · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject:

The size of the footprint relates to building regs.

The roof height relates PP.

I also took it to mean any part of the roof cannot be over 2.5m even if the part that's over 2.5 metres is 2m away from the fence.

I'd be interested if anyone has any clarification on this as it might change my plans too.

Is it also true what Alan said about measuring from the highest piece of ground around it?

Edit: Re concrete. I've got similar issues with regards being a way away from the road. It's going to take a fair few barrow loads to do that concrete! Have you looked into finding someone who can pump it? I have no idea if this is a goer but would save a lot of effort.

MickCheese · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject:

This is the relevant bit from the Government Portal site above

If the outbuilding is within 2 metres of the property
boundary the whole building should not exceed 2.5
metres in height.

Mick
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Dibs-h · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject:

Woody Alan · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:18 pm Post subject:

WoodAddict · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject:

Hi Jungle Jim.

Good luck with the build, it sounds interesting. Just a quick thought when it comes to the foundations and the slab. Decide which corner (or where-ever) the distribution bard will go in for the electrics and run a plastic pipe (around 2" internal) under the slab from outside and poking up into the workshop above floor level.

It's just a pet hate of mine. Being an electrician I've turned up to many new buildings to install the wiring and had to drill holes in walls and run ugly looking armoured cable in awkward places to get the feed in. It can be solved so easily with the plastic pipe at foundation stage.

Looking forward to seeing the plans Wink

Paul

roppa · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: building regs

10 years ago I built a double garage with an integral workshop.I found out from the local planning office that if the structure was more than 5 mtrs from my property and more than 5 mtrs from my boundary (owned land) then there was no restriction on size as long it was built in sympathy with our existing house, ie stone and with a slate roof. I built it 9m x 12m .the workshop is 9m x 3.5m.
If I remember correctly I only had to submit a plan and it was subject to building regs.Took me over 3 years to finish! worth the effort though.

dh7892 · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:37 am Post subject:

Roppa: It seems that the planning rules changed quite a lot in 2008 so I think things are a bit different now.

Dibs: How far did you get the concrete pumped? I've got to go about 150ft from the road will that work? (Not meaning to hijack this post!).