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RILEY Furniture Maker
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 337 Location: NORTHAMPTONSHIRE
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:07 pm Post subject: How to use a scraper |
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This is probably the best video I've seen on scraper sharpening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZWqdPFul8
Just thought I'd post it here for others to see.
It seems like I've been overcomplicating the process for years.
I love the one swipe technique.
Adam. _________________ Learn from the past,
work for the future.
And don't be a slave to no computer... |
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Beardo16 Woodworker
Joined: 15 Apr 2009 Posts: 57 Location: Lutterworth, Leicestershire
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for posting the vid Riley.
Seems simple but effective. |
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jedmc571 Furniture Maker

Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Chester
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: |
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I really like that film.
I'm not really a hand tool guy but in the past I've always used stanley blades for scraping small areas, the idea behind a cabinet scraper is great, but like normal sharpening, I get a bit overwhelmed.
I'm going to buy a scraper now, and try this technique
Cheers Adam
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Modernist Furniture Maker

Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 270 Location: Matlock UK
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
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A seminal lesson - great stuff _________________ A cabinet of planes is never full
cheers
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barkwindjammer Forum Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2010 Posts: 48 Location: Central Alba
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Its a pity he didnt 'plug' the scrapers manufacturer  |
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superunknown Furniture Maker

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 378 Location: At home
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting, might give that a try. Did anybody else hear what sounds like somebody sleeping during that video? |
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MickCheese Furniture Maker

Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 343 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Sandvik I think. _________________ It's better to be a little late in this life than early into the next. |
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Saint Simon Forum Newbie

Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 40 Location: North London
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I have always felt it necessary to run the burnisher backwards and forwards a few times with the scraper held firmly in the vice. But the shavings he achieved with just one pass and with the scraper in his hand were very impressive.
Not in work at the moment to try it but have other people had similar success with his method?
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The Bear Woodworker

Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 147 Location: Surrey
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Having never tried to use a scrapper, I'm thinking of trying this.
What type of file do I need to use to square the edge? Bastard, second or fine cut? Can anyone point me towards the right type in the Axi catalogue?
Cheers
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pedder Woodworker
Joined: 19 Jan 2007 Posts: 137 Location: germany
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| The Bear wrote: | Having never tried to use a scrapper, I'm thinking of trying this.
What type of file do I need to use to square the edge? Bastard, second or fine cut? Can anyone point me towards the right type in the Axi catalogue?
Cheers
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Hi Mark,
You are looking for a smooth file:
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Vallorbe-Swiss-Hand-Files-22596.htm
Because the teeth are finer at shorter files, I would take the 200mm file.
Cheers
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Kalimna Woodworker
Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Posts: 132 Location: Alloa, Scotland
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: |
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What a fabulous demo. Looks much easier than I have been making it so far. Especially the advice for using the file. And the swiping.
Mind you, I think a little practice prior to doing the swipe freehand - those knuckles on the hand doing the swiping are moving rather quickly past a rather sharp metal edge
Cheers,
Adam _________________ Slowly building up the skills to create finer and finer sawdust.......... |
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woodbloke Master Cabinetmaker

Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 7960 Location: Salisbury,UK
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Basically the method I use 'cept mine goes in the vice and I use two or three passes of the burnisher on each edge.
Not difficult to do once you get the knack - Rob _________________ The most dangerous thing in a workshop is a bit of sandpaper...not withstanding the 'Slope'
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DaveL Moderator

Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 4595 Location: Sudbury, Suffolk
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| pedder wrote: | | The Bear wrote: | Having never tried to use a scrapper, I'm thinking of trying this.
What type of file do I need to use to square the edge? Bastard, second or fine cut? Can anyone point me towards the right type in the Axi catalogue?
Cheers
Mark |
Hi Mark,
You are looking for a smooth file:
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Vallorbe-Swiss-Hand-Files-22596.htm
Because the teeth are finer at shorter files, I would take the 200mm file.
Cheers
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I think I would get a mill file, they are single cut, used for filing saw blades and should give a smoother finish than a fine double cut file. _________________ Regards,
Dave
I do not have a tool problem, I can stop using them any time I like! |
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RILEY Furniture Maker
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 337 Location: NORTHAMPTONSHIRE
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Rob, sounds like I use (now 'used to use') the same technique as you, but to me this method is FAR superior.
Had the need to sharpen a scraper over the weekend and it works a treat. Just watch your knuckles on the (high speed) pass of the burnisher. DAMHIKT
Adam.[/i] _________________ Learn from the past,
work for the future.
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Steve Maskery Master Cabinetmaker

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 4075 Location: Nottingham
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Well I was taught to start the burnishing square and gradually increase the hook in several passes. But I cannot deny that he get results, and excellent ones at that.
An that reminds me. My nice vertiats burnisher has started to get a bit scarred, I think it's time I spent a wee while fettling it.
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